A call to the ministry. It must be affirmed by others. It must seem good to others. It must be right. I trust there will be many called to ministry. Sometimes people ask, ‘How would you know if somebody perhaps might be called to be a preacher, a teacher of others?’ Well even at the natural level I would expect that person to be interesting to listen to even when they were quite young, to have some natural facility. That does not make them brilliant people of course. You must have some capacity and succeed with your Sunday school class or your witness or your conversation so that people like listening to you; there should be some natural thing. That is only the beginning of the story. But then you need to ask yourself, should I not be humbling myself before the Lord, and see this as a refined and advanced calling, and seek his will. Well, I hope there will be many more preachers in the future. I cannot understand so few people in the Reformed evangelical world present themselves nowadays for the teaching, preaching ministry. There must be some fault in us that we hold back. But we should never project ourselves, or promote ourselves, and the Lord Jesus Christ used this particular proverb in Luke 14.7-11 in the parable that he gives there, where he refines and applies it.